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“Hire experts. Don’t be penny rich and pound foolish.”

Guest: Robert Brill, BRILL MEDIA CO

In this episode of The RebelRebel Podcast, host Michael Dean Dargie sits down with Robert Brill, the founder and CEO of Brill Media, a highly successful advertising agency based in Los Angeles. Robert shares his journey from working in traditional advertising agencies to bootstrapping his own company to multi-million dollar success. He opens up about the challenges he faced, including the stress of hiring his first employees and navigating the complex world of ad buying.

Robert discusses the moment he decided to start Brill Media after his previous company went bankrupt and how the freedom of not asking for time off drove him towards entrepreneurship. He candidly talks about the ongoing stress and different types of pressures that come with running a successful business. From not wanting to sell or take massive financial risks to the importance of hiring experts, Robert provides valuable insights for aspiring entrepreneurs.

Listeners will also hear about Robert’s personal life, including his role as a husband and father, and his hobbies, such as his love for Dodgers games and his dream of visiting Japan. This episode is filled with practical advice, personal anecdotes, and the raw truth about the entrepreneurial journey, making it a must-listen for creative rebels and entrepreneurs alike.

Pull Quotes:

  1. “The best entrepreneurs have a chip on their shoulder and they’re freaking lazy. They have something to prove.”
  2. “It’s going to take you five times as long and cost five times as much, but if you have the drive, go for it.”
  3. “Hire experts. Don’t be penny rich and pound foolish.”
  4. “I haven’t found the point where it’s not stressful yet. It’s just different stress.”
  5. “Work doesn’t have to be boring. It can be challenging in a good way.”

Episode Highlights:

  • Robert’s Journey: Transition from a traditional ad agency to founding Brill Media.
  • Challenges in Entrepreneurship: The stress of hiring and operational responsibilities.
  • Importance of Hiring Experts: How investing in expertise can dramatically accelerate business growth.
  • Personal Insights: Balancing work with personal life, including family and hobbies.
  • Vision for the Future: Robert’s goals for his business and personal aspirations.

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About the Author: Michael Dargie

Michael Dean Dargie is a sought-after international speaker and the host of the RebelRebel Podcast. He has been nominated for Outstanding Host, as well as Outstanding Business Series in the Canadian Podcast Awards numerous times. Michael is the CEO and "Creative Zealot" at Make More Creative—a branding agency serving creative rebels and businesses worldwide.