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“I’ve never met anyone who knew what they were doing; we’re all just making it up.”


In this episode of The RebelRebel Podcast, host Michael Dean Dargie sits down with the audacious and insightful Sam Conniff, author of “Be More Pirate.” From the sunny streets of South London to the historical pockets of Peckham Rye, Sam takes listeners on an enlightening journey through his unique perspective on life, leadership, and the power of rebellion.

Sam opens up about his personal struggles and triumphs, revealing how he found clarity in uncertain times and the driving force behind his mission to encourage others to embrace their inner pirate. His book, “Be More Pirate,” serves as a manifesto for those looking to break free from societal constraints and redefine success on their own terms.

The conversation delves into the historical roots of piracy, highlighting how these rule-breakers of the past can serve as modern-day role models for professional and personal rule-breaking. Sam passionately discusses the importance of interoception, the eighth sense, and how it can guide individuals through the choppy waters of uncertainty.

Listeners are treated to an array of fascinating stories, from the strategic retreats of Queen Elizabeth I to the rebellious acts of Golden Age pirates, and how these historical narratives can inspire contemporary acts of courage and innovation. Sam also shares insights from his current work, leading the world’s largest research study into the human impact of uncertainty, offering practical advice on how to harness this often-daunting force for positive change.

Whether you’re a seasoned rebel or a pirate in waiting, this episode is packed with wisdom, humour, and actionable insights that will leave you inspired to chart your own course.

Cool Things Sam Says

“Interoception will be your ability to navigate by running your fingers in the water and feeling the currents.”
“The change we need won’t come from the places it’s supposed to; it requires professional rule-breaking.”
“When you realize there’s no singular right, it becomes a terrifying and liberating place to live.”
“I’ve never met anyone who knew what they were doing; we’re all just making it up.”

Episode Highlights

  • Sam Conniff’s journey from uncertainty to clarity.
  • The historical significance and modern-day relevance of piracy.
  • The concept of interoception and its role in navigating uncertainty.
  • Sam’s work with the Uncertainty Experts and its impact on individuals and organizations.
  • Practical advice for rebels and pirates in waiting.

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About the Author: Michael Dargie

Michael Dean Dargie is a sought-after international speaker and the host of the RebelRebel Podcast. He has been nominated for Outstanding Host, as well as Outstanding Business Series in the Canadian Podcast Awards numerous times. Michael is the CEO and "Creative Zealot" at Make More Creative—a branding agency serving creative rebels and businesses worldwide.